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#48644 - 11/02/15 05:35 PM Other casks at Bladnoch...
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I was just going trough papers... and found I have shares in other casks at Bladnoch. Maybe they're still registered at my old address...

Anyway, anyone else have shares in casks 699 and 701? I have 1/20th shares in each.

Also, cask 199/2008, which was due to mature for eight years. It will reach this age in March 2016.

Would be interested in hearing from people with interests in these casks too...

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#48646 - 11/02/15 06:01 PM Re: Other casks at Bladnoch... [Re: JohnM]
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Hi John
These are casks of Bladnoch whisky not Margadale. From memory when it came to dividing down into one twentieth cask shares, I was just going insane. It was my attempt to allow buyers to see the difference between the same whisky when matured in a wine cask made from French oak and one made from American oak (some may have been Spanish oak). So rather than buy a tenth share of one cask, they would get a twentieth share of two wine casks. Same whisky, same wine, but different wood.
For relatively little money you were able to take part in an experiment of sorts. I think it was Niklas who tasted one a few years ago and thought that the wine influence was a bit too dominant. Therefore these will be worth tasting before bottling. If the taste isn't right then we should think perhaps of a transfer to another cask for a short period.

I'll try to put you in touch with some of the other owners but I don't want to get things too confused just now .... age .... mine.


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#48647 - 11/02/15 07:57 PM Re: Other casks at Bladnoch... [Re: Raymondo]
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Thanks Raymond

Yeah, I realise they're not Margadale. I like the variety. Getting through the Margadale alone will be some task.

I have some more shares in casks maturing in Martin's warehouse too. I'll have to find out what they are!

By the way, I met an old teammate of yours last year - Kenny McElroy.

Kenny was a great club man, which unfortunately I was not. I was lazy and just enjoyed playing. Kenny is very sociable and he kept us well entertained with his craic in the car or on the bus going to and from matches. Haven't seen him for a good while but the great thing about rugby is that if I met him in the street tomorrow we could probably both recall matches in which we both played "brilliantly" over 40 years ago. Raymond


Edited by Raymond (12/02/15 09:46 AM)

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#48650 - 11/02/15 11:22 PM Re: Other casks at Bladnoch... [Re: JohnM]
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Hi John,
Dan & Jack have a joint share in 2008/199 though I think it may be registered in Kevin's name.

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#48652 - 12/02/15 08:48 AM Re: Other casks at Bladnoch... [Re: Sue]
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Thanks Sue. I wonder if anyone has tried it?

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#48653 - 12/02/15 09:49 AM Re: Other casks at Bladnoch... [Re: JohnM]
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The whisky was well distilled and the bourbon casks we were using were excellent and I tasted it as a five year old. It's really really good, you'll love it.
Now there's a bold but accurate statement!
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#48654 - 12/02/15 01:19 PM Re: Other casks at Bladnoch... [Re: Raymondo]
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Wow, that's freaky I was just thinking about this today and see you asked the question yesterday. As I've been so tied up the last few years I actually logged into the old Bladnoch forum and luckily ye had a link to here and this is the first thread I see .

I'm also a 1/20th part owner of each of the 699 - 701 venture.

From My Paper work it says Casked on the 27th of July 2007. That would make them 8 years old this summer.

Might be an idea to get a separate thread for each cask or cask combo so vested parties can hook up and discuss options.

GHreat to see ye are all still around
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#48676 - 15/02/15 01:03 PM Re: Other casks at Bladnoch... [Re: IrishWhiskeyChaser]
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I am in both of these. No hurry from me to get them bottled

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#48679 - 16/02/15 12:22 PM Re: Other casks at Bladnoch... [Re: Raymondo]
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 Originally Posted By: Raymond
The whisky was well distilled and the bourbon casks we were using were excellent and I tasted it as a five year old. It's really really good, you'll love it.
Now there's a bold but accurate statement!


That's good enough for me.

I am not in a hurry to bottle either really.

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#48680 - 16/02/15 01:50 PM Re: Other casks at Bladnoch... [Re: JohnM]
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Ditto,

When it's ready it's ready and that is time enough for me ;-)

John has my details anyway so he can contact me if I'm not paying attention.
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#48686 - 17/02/15 09:27 AM Re: Other casks at Bladnoch... [Re: IrishWhiskeyChaser]
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I am also one of the 20 with shares in casks 699 and 701 from 2007.
Yes, I tasted the sister casks to the 699 and 701 as 4yo in May 2012 and it was a nice colour and quite influenced by the wine in the taste.

Another shared cask I have 1/10 in is the heavily peated Bladnoch from 16'th of October 2009 (Barrel 44).

Trying to link to a photo of the samples...
[img]https://www.dropbox.com/s/ehw53sgxxvolmod/DSC_0652.JPG?dl=0[/img]

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#48687 - 17/02/15 02:06 PM Re: Other casks at Bladnoch... [Re: nab01]
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I think you have to go to Photo Gallery to publish photos!

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#48688 - 17/02/15 02:47 PM Re: Other casks at Bladnoch... [Re: Åke Johansson]
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hmm....Im sure I have added links to photos before without using the photo gallery but it clearly didn't work this time. Hope any one interested in lookiing at the picture can copy and paste it into a web browser.

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#48689 - 17/02/15 03:24 PM Re: Other casks at Bladnoch... [Re: nab01]
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#48697 - 18/02/15 03:32 PM Re: Other casks at Bladnoch... [Re: JohnM]
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 Originally Posted By: JohnM
Thanks Raymond

Yeah, I realise they're not Margadale. I like the variety. Getting through the Margadale alone will be some task.

I have some more shares in casks maturing in Martin's warehouse too. I'll have to find out what they are!

By the way, I met an old teammate of yours last year - Kenny McElroy.

Kenny was a great club man, which unfortunately I was not. I was lazy and just enjoyed playing. Kenny is very sociable and he kept us well entertained with his craic in the car or on the bus going to and from matches. Haven't seen him for a good while but the great thing about rugby is that if I met him in the street tomorrow we could probably both recall matches in which we both played "brilliantly" over 40 years ago. Raymond


I missed this... He spoke highly of you. He said you were a determined player. He has a great knowledge of Northern Irish history at his fingertips.

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#48957 - 13/05/15 08:16 AM Re: Other casks at Bladnoch... [Re: JohnM]
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Hi guys,
I have a 1/20 share of cask 697/2007 and 704/2007. What will happen now with these casks and shares, I believe it was going to be bottled possibly at the end of this year?
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#48960 - 13/05/15 10:55 PM Re: Other casks at Bladnoch... [Re: Steve]
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Hi Steve,
Unless you have the names of the other shareholders and they agree to bottle you´ll just have to bide your time and hope that incompetence will not rule Bladnoch forever.

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#48961 - 14/05/15 07:51 AM Re: Other casks at Bladnoch... [Re: Åke Johansson]
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Hi Steve,
I'll write and ask each shareholder of your cask if they are willing to exchange email addresses. I would recommend that you bottle the cask as soon as it is 8yo if only to avoid any complications. There was wording to that effect in the purchase agreement unless all parties agreed otherwise, so the presumption is that it should be bottled. I think the distillery is likely to be bottling by then but if it is not, Martin my son has warehouses and bottling facilities just 10 miles down the road, so when the time comes it shouldn't present a difficulty.
PS Martin bottled an 8yo for a customer who had bought it back when first filled. The lady had come across from NE England to see it being bottled. He said it tastes great. How time flies!

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#48965 - 15/05/15 01:41 AM Re: Other casks at Bladnoch... [Re: Steve]
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Hey Steve - I'm one of the other 1/20th owners of 697/2007 & 704/2007. just need to find the other 18 of us and we're all set. \:\)

The bottling date shown on my contract is 27th July, so I assume it can be bottled any time after that. now getting my bottles over the the US is a whole nother story.

I don't check this forum too often, but I can be reached at a yahoo -dot- com address with the name elud internation al (all one word)

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#48969 - 16/05/15 07:37 AM Re: Other casks at Bladnoch... [Re: Matchsticks]
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Thank you for your replies.

I was a little worried as to what is happening with the casks with possibly not getting them at all.

I dont have a date on my contract stating when it would be bottled that I can see. I was assuming it would be about 8 years after buying a share, just in time for my 40th lol. I had thought I would try and have a visit when it was be bottled too.

Raymond, do you have an idea how much it will cost when the bottling is done with all the extra charges to us individualy?
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#48986 - 19/05/15 10:22 AM Re: Other casks at Bladnoch... [Re: Steve]
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Martin has been bottling some of them, mainly because he's located just across Wigtown bay so there are no transport costs, but the shareholders can choose to have them bottled anywhere, obviously including at Bladnoch if the new owners start bottling.
I'll get the details of your cask as I can't remember, the wine casks I think held about 220/225 litres slightly more than the 190/200 litre bourbon barrels.
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#49074 - 23/06/15 04:26 PM Re: Other casks at Bladnoch... [Re: JohnM]
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Hi Raymond/all....hope you are all well!

We also have a 1/20th in casks 699/701. Excited about them coming of age, but also happy to fall in behind the sage of wiser heads on when to bottle (or as Raymond suggests perhaps recask the wine one for a while if needed).

Count us in for being on an email list of owners for any discourse.

Sláinte.
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#49078 - 24/06/15 06:38 PM Re: Other casks at Bladnoch... [Re: JohnM]
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Hi Andrea, hope all is good on the beautiful island of Lewis. you've been there quite a while so it must be good.
I'll come back to you shortly.
Raymond
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#49232 - 16/08/15 05:50 PM Re: Other casks at Bladnoch... [Re: JohnM]
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Hi,
I have had a letter from the new owners (I think) stating that the storage agreement has come to an end and the I have a three month free of charge period before being charged for rental. Has anymore been found out about getting the 697/2007 and 704/2007 casks bottled or moved?

Thanks
Steve
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#49233 - 16/08/15 08:33 PM Re: Other casks at Bladnoch... [Re: Steve]
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Hi Steve,

There is a closed Facebook group for shareholders of the #697/704 2007 wine casks. Please e-mail me on legacyofashes (at) gmail (dot) com for details on how to join.

We would also like to get in contact with Gary Satterley, please contact me as well if you are a shareholder of these casks.

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#49310 - 22/09/15 03:44 PM Re: Other casks at Bladnoch... [Re: JohnM]
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Hi Everyone,

Not sure if anybody has any advice or similar experiences. I have a tenth share in cask 1080 of bladnoch which has just a couple a weeks ago turned 8yrs. I have phoned and email the distillery for the last few weeks, but I can't seem to get any information. It seems they can't make their mind up whether they'll bottle themselves or not. Quite frustrating really, all I want to know is when something will start to get sorted.

Seems like I'll have to just be patient
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#49313 - 22/09/15 11:14 PM Re: Other casks at Bladnoch... [Re: JohnM]
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High Simon,
Ultimately it's up to the owners of the ten shares as to where it's bottled but whatever the decision it is not possible before it turns 8 yo.
I'll put you in touch with the other owners and you can all decide what you think is best. I'll send you a personal message sometime tomorrow.
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#49384 - 09/10/15 08:30 PM Re: Other casks at Bladnoch... [Re: JohnM]
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Raymond: I'd love to have a list of the owners of 98/2007. It turned 8 in February.

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#49385 - 10/10/15 12:05 PM Re: Other casks at Bladnoch... [Re: JohnM]
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Does martin have any more casks ...enjoyed his recent release

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#49386 - 10/10/15 01:40 PM Re: Other casks at Bladnoch... [Re: JohnM]
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Hi Alabaster, I heard him mention that he had bought a few interesting older casks and hoped to pick them up soon. A month or two before Christmas is the time when he sells quite a lot to trade buyers buying in for Christmas.
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#49423 - 04/11/15 11:42 AM Re: Other casks at Bladnoch... [Re: JohnM]
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Further to the few PM's and emails I've received recently, things appear to be moving forward with regard to bottling of the privately owned tenth shares of the individual casks of Bladnoch now ready for bottling.
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#49456 - 16/11/15 05:15 PM Re: Other casks at Bladnoch... [Re: JohnM]
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I got a letter today also.

Not sure what is happening in regards to the casks I'm involved in as I've heard from no one.

Anyway I'm good to let Martin do his stuff on my behalf if everyone else wants to go with it.

I have a 1/20th share in casks 699 & 701.
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#49459 - 17/11/15 01:34 PM Re: Other casks at Bladnoch... [Re: JohnM]
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I'm very jealous....was a year ago that I did mine. Hope they come oooot alreet.

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#49461 - 17/11/15 06:17 PM Re: Other casks at Bladnoch... [Re: IrishWhiskeyChaser]
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Originally Posted By IrishWhiskeyChaser
I got a letter today also.

Not sure what is happening in regards to the casks I'm involved in as I've heard from no one.

Anyway I'm good to let Martin do his stuff on my behalf if everyone else wants to go with it.

I have a 1/20th share in casks 699 & 701.


Part owner of 699/701 too. Not sure what happens next but happy if Martin can help!

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#49582 - 14/01/16 06:02 PM Re: Other casks at Bladnoch... [Re: JohnM]
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Anybody have updates on casks moved from Bladnoch? Any progress being made on bottling them?

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#49583 - 14/01/16 10:28 PM Re: Other casks at Bladnoch... [Re: JohnM]
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I got an email about the tenth I own from whiskybroker. It has been 8yo for some time and Martin seems to be planning to bottle it soon.
Sounds he's got a couple of casks to deal with though so it may be a bit longer than I anticipate.

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#49584 - 14/01/16 11:45 PM Re: Other casks at Bladnoch... [Re: JohnM]
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I´ve a sample from my cask of Bladnoch 2007 on its way. Will 8 years in the barrel be enough? I´m not a great lover of young whiskies but maybe this will show that I´m wrong?

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#49586 - 15/01/16 07:08 AM Re: Other casks at Bladnoch... [Re: JohnM]
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The one martin bottled earlier in the year was great....

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#49587 - 15/01/16 03:31 PM Re: Other casks at Bladnoch... [Re: JohnM]
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I've said previously that I'm sure the 200 litre bourbon barrels will be excellent .. the new-make was excellent and the barrels freshly emptied bourbon.
With regard to the wine casks which I think were, 697 French oak, 699 American oak, 701 French oak, and 704 American oak, they contained 225 litres. They should taste quite different from the bourbon and from each other, spicy, peppery perhaps?
When I offered the option of a tenth share in the wine casks I don't think all buyers took up the opportunity to go for a twentieth shares in two casks. The new-make was the same so it should be interesting to taste the difference the wood makes. Some of these casks were Seguin Moreau, which I think is highly regarded by some other whisky distilleries.
For some info on different cask types, see http://www.barrel-shop.com/oakbarrels/se...uin-moreau.html

I think only four casks that are now 8yo were sold in shares but there were others which are currently younger than 8yo.
It might be a good idea for the owners of the above four casks to agree to bottle the best two casks and (subject to agreement of everyone)divide the bottles equally among all shareholders.
If you wish you could then re-cask the other two into something different maybe fresh bourbon or sherry and leave it for a couple of years. This should give you enough bottles to be going on with and lower bottling and duty costs. In any case it appears that Martin is reasonably flexible, so the choices are yours to make.
I've never considered it a good idea to bottle half a cask and leave the remaining whisky to mature in a half empty barrel.

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#49589 - 16/01/16 01:44 AM Re: Other casks at Bladnoch... [Re: JohnM]
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I've got a 1/10th share of cask 230/2007 which was 2 year old spirit and now over 8 years that got transferred to Martin. I was in the process of transferring ownership of the cask though and the cask is in limbo now.. I can't complete cask transfer as Bladnoch had already released it.

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#49591 - 17/01/16 03:25 PM Re: Other casks at Bladnoch... [Re: JohnM]
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Shouldn't be a problem Rickduff although technically everyone should notify the warehouse keeper before transferring ownership. This is an HMRC requirement and is therefore important.
get in touch with Martin at info@whiskybroker.co.uk and update him.

best wishes
Raymond
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#49595 - 18/01/16 04:06 PM Re: Other casks at Bladnoch... [Re: JohnM]
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Re Cask share ownership.
Martin at Whiskybroker has mentioned that he is struggling trying to trace many of the owners of the Bladnoch shares.
At the time of sale the documentation did point out the need for shareholders to keep the distillery up-dated with regard to change of address, telephone number, email address etc.
Tracing the owners in some cases is taking up a considerable amount of time. Share ownership seemed a good idea to get enthusiasts involved but with the benefit of hindsight it is obvious that one could emphisise until the cows come home, the need to keep in contact, but if owners neglect to do so, then we have a problem.
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#49597 - 18/01/16 09:50 PM Re: Other casks at Bladnoch... [Re: JohnM]
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Shame there's not a clause in the contract regarding changing contract details, but even so, it probably isn't our problem, if they don't get in touch within a reasonable period of time after the cask turns 8, shouldn't it be deemed forfeited?
Anyway, my tenth is now 8 and a third and I WANT MY WHISKY!

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#49600 - 19/01/16 09:43 AM Re: Other casks at Bladnoch... [Re: JohnM]
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Just bottle it and store till they appear and charge accordingly.... If they don't after x years ....sell on

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#49602 - 21/01/16 02:00 PM Re: Other casks at Bladnoch... [Re: JohnM]
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Got a 3cl sample of Cask 699 today. American Oak (medium Toasted).

Have not tried it yet as still working frown

However it smells wonderfully rich and sweet and although I cannot get a full appreciation of it until I get it into a glass I get the hint of Spice and wood too cool .

There's Malt clearly there. The sweetness is possibly verging on a very light Bourbon style but that could just be because the sweetness is possibly the most evident as I'm smelling it through the wee bottle top.

Will get back to once I get my nose and gums around this laugh

Anyway smells lovely and looking forward to trying it.
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#49603 - 21/01/16 05:51 PM Re: Other casks at Bladnoch... [Re: JohnM]
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I got a nice surprise today too. Samples of two casks. The 699 is particularly nice, I think. Just my type of whisky.

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#49606 - 22/01/16 03:01 AM Re: Other casks at Bladnoch... [Re: JohnM]
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Wonderful surprise here also, with 3cl's of 699/701. Many thanks indeed to the person who sent it out (Raymond/Martin?).

We have just had a wee late night sample. The American toasted oak (cask 699) has the real American oak cream-soda sweet notes going on - I love where this one is going. The French Oak (cask 701), much purer, clean spicy/pepper oak. Very cool to be part of the experiment - a huge difference there to taste. Thanks again to Raymond for putting himself through the hassle for us! smile

I think we would like to maybe let them run a few more years yet...but will wait and see what the consensus is.

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#49608 - 23/01/16 01:35 PM Re: Other casks at Bladnoch... [Re: JohnM]
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I am happy to go with the consensus too.

What happens to the casks when they are emptied? Not sure who owns them. Could we have them filled again with something.

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#49612 - 25/01/16 10:35 PM Re: Other casks at Bladnoch... [Re: JohnM]
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I got the two samples today. Very nice surprise, thank you Martin/Jane!

It was about four years since I tried them (sister casks) and I have to say there have been great progress.

I think they both smell great.
Taste is much better than before, however I agree with Andrea and think they might benefit from a few more years. Raymonds idea about a partial bottling and re-racking on bourbon/sherry cask for the rest could be an interesting option.

/Niklas

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#49627 - 03/02/16 09:49 PM Re: Other casks at Bladnoch... [Re: JohnM]
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I only got a sample of 699 but not 701 frown

What harm I am really enjoying 699.

The whisky has a lovely Amber or polished bronze hue and is very bright and clear.

On the nose a deep rich sweetness with nice light Malt beneath, slightly buttery, fruit syrup possibly peach and a touch of green grass (crushed by the footstep of a fairy on a warm spring morning .... Okay I've gone too far grin laugh )

The whisky has a light mouth feel but the sweetness makes it feel bigger. Sweet and very palatable at cask strength. Gobstopper candy, a touch of clove rock, and even fresh green herbs maybe green mint leaf, dry and meaty at times too, possible lick of matchstick (not a complaint) Finish is dryish with wood dust at the very end but never faraway from the sweetness. I feel it's more complex than I'm describing but that is all I can decipher at the minute.

To be honest I'd love to get a bottle straight away but I'd be happy to go with the consensus. Was there a mention of doing some now and some later. That would be even more interesting for me.
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#49631 - 03/02/16 11:29 PM Re: Other casks at Bladnoch... [Re: JohnM]
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Hi Adrian, like to hear you waxing lyrical about whiskey and fairies. "a touch of green grass crushed by the foot of a fairy on a warm spring morn." Must be a west of Ireland thing.

I'm quite fond of the poetry of W B Yeats and the other day I was reading some poems about fairies to my grandaughter who is seven.
"Sidhe" I think is Irish for fairy and "Tir na nOg refers" to the other world


"The Stolen Child"
Where dips the rocky highland
Of Sleuth Wood in the lake,
There lies a leafy island
Where flapping herons wake
The drousy water-rats;
There we've hid our faery vats,
Full of berries
And of reddest stolen cherries.
Come away, O human child!
To the waters and the wild
With a faery hand and hand,
For the worlds more full of weeping than you can understand.
etc. etc

I tried stumbling through a few lines in appaling Irish but alas she wasn't impressed. She also thought it a bit scary in English.

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#49634 - 04/02/16 04:18 PM Re: Other casks at Bladnoch... [Re: JohnM]
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A bit tongue in cheek as I was reminded of some elaborate notes from the last Tasting I was at, hosted by Charles MacLean, on some of the SMWS bottlings. A very enjoyable tasting I must admit.

As you say the Irish are great for waxing lyrical ... The Irish way is why use one word when you can use five in it's stead wink

I actually originally come Kerry in the south west and I grew up with Fairy stores so they were also very popular down there. They were actually taken very seriously back in the day. Another word for the old ring forts was a fairy fort and a farmer dare not to disturb that or bare the wrath of the little folk. There was also the fairy tree and again should never be disturbed. The Irish fairy was always seen as a maleficent creature never to be crossed. Scared the "be jaysus" outa me too I can tell you grin


or maybe they were just to keep the young children out of the woods ...

You might want to watch this before showing to the Granchildren

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_EyPVV-WxA
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#49768 - 09/04/16 07:55 PM Re: Other casks at Bladnoch... [Re: JohnM]
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Have come up with a cunning plan with another share owner of 699 & 701. We will bottle a share of each and keep and recask a share of each also and divide between us so we have the best of both worlds. Can't wait for delivery of the first batch :-D.

I really thought the current aging is very interesting and acceptable. So getting half now is a great bonus.

However I like to say a big thank you to Raymond for this wonderful opportunity which in these days of rising prices looks like a complete bargain and a big thanks to Martin and co as I know it is probably more hassle than it is worth for them.

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#49802 - 01/05/16 12:01 PM Re: Other casks at Bladnoch... [Re: JohnM]
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1/2 of my allocation of 699 & 701 has arrived in Ireland. Woo Hoo.
Just wondering if any one has any specific information on the casks used. I know Raymond discussed the casks he was using but I have not seen any exact confirmation of what each cask is. I know one is French Oak and 1 American Oak Medium Toast but that is about all I know.
I even saw there was a picture of cask 699 in the pictures section but the links all appear broken to me at this stage.

Any information would be gratefully appreciated.

I found this information in a thread called Casks but other than that not much else. Would love to know what exactly these casks held but not a big deal if lost to time.

http://raymondarmstrong.co.uk/threads/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=19985#Post19985


Raymond Page 1
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Had a quick look tonight at yesterdays delivery of bourbon barrels and the wine casks. Most of the bourbon casks are from Buffalo Trace Distillery.
Being fond of wine I couldn't wait to stick my nose in these casks and they are very pleasing, excellent quality French oak. They're from various cooperages, including Francois Frere Tonnellerie in Cote d'Or; Seguin Moreau in Bourgogne; Gillet Pere et Fils St Romain; Berthomieu Tonnelerie, and Mendocino all I think in France plus World cooperage USA, obviously American oak
I haven't quite figured out all the markings representing different levels of toasting, eg MT Medium Toating, TH and HT I'm not sure about.
I'm going to pick what I think are good casks, up to three of them, fill them, they hold about 225 litres.


Also from Raymond Page 2
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Seguin Moreau Chagny 228 litres Bourgogne Kenwood Vineyard.

Mendocino Cooperage MT TH It also says F65 Oct 98

Francois Freres Tonnellerie St Romain Cotes d'Or France "A" "M plus" Oct98 This cask is slightly smaller but if this one is chosen you can decide whether to take a share in it when I fill it and know the capacity.

Francois Freres (as above) with the markings A HT TH Fut de tradition francais Qualite CTB Certificate No.1


Canton Cooperage Lebanon USA American white oak Medium w/toasted heads 225 litres Kenwood Vineyards.
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#49811 - 04/05/16 11:21 PM Re: Other casks at Bladnoch... [Re: JohnM]
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Hi Adrian
Sorry for the delay in replying. I've been over at Martins for the past ten days and stupidly I didn't look at this posting mostly because I was in the "workers" accomodation at his business in Creetown and internet reception is poor. Co-incidently I was looking at a few empty Bladnoch casks lying outside. I'm not sure which numbers they were but I remarked to Martin that they were nice looking wee casks. I'll probably be over again in the next fortnight and I'll see if your two cask have further legible information .... they are obviously now a bit darker.

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#49852 - 20/05/16 01:06 PM Re: Other casks at Bladnoch... [Re: JohnM]
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Not at all Raymond, just me being an anorak ;-) If you can you can but not a major issue.

Picked up my allocation yesterday and could not be happier with how they turned out.

The whiskey is much darker than I expected which is great, like a beautifully polished piece of walnut furniture. The 699 cask is a bigger fuller whiskey with the 701 more refined whiskey. Both Drinking very nicely I feel at this age with the 699 edging it for me but I'll reserve judgement until I have a few more tastes.
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#50462 - 01/11/17 11:55 PM Re: Other casks at Bladnoch... [Re: JohnM]
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Anyone know what happened with 699/701 casks?

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#50464 - 06/11/17 03:27 PM Re: Other casks at Bladnoch... [Re: JohnM]
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Hi Andrea I sent you a PM this morning and have since spoken to Martin who says you've been in touch with him. I think it's intended that the casks you refer to will be bottled very soon.
I need hardly add that his staff are keen that I don't sell any more tenth shares.
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#50466 - 07/11/17 01:45 PM Re: Other casks at Bladnoch... [Re: JohnM]
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I look forward to try the result of the 699/701 casks and Im sure it was a good move for those that made the re-rack into sherry octaves. Do you remember the pink'ish colour it had in the beginning? smile

Today I got the first of four boxes of the heavily peated Bladnoch (cask #44) and I really look forward to taste it later!

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#50467 - 07/11/17 07:45 PM Re: Other casks at Bladnoch... [Re: JohnM]
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The heavily peated Bladnoch from 2009 is really good!
Thank you Raymond!
Can you recall how many casks of heavily peated Bladnoch you filled? Any other years than 2009?


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#50481 - 27/11/17 11:02 PM Re: Other casks at Bladnoch... [Re: Raymondo]
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Hi Andrea I sent you a PM this morning and have since spoken to Martin who says you've been in touch with him. I think it's intended that the casks you refer to will be bottled very soon.
I need hardly add that his staff are keen that I don't sell any more tenth shares.


Thanks, yes I've managed to get in touch with Martin and am hoping to pick it up when I'm down at Christmas....just trying to find a way to get down to Creetown before everyone at Whiskybroker heads off for their Christmas party and holidays! Hopefully I'll be able to get down in time....but you don't know anyone in the area that might be willing to hold it for me if I can't make it down until the 22nd?? All such complicated plans from my end for the sake of one day!

Seems so long ago that I bought the share and it's fair to say a lot of "life" has happened since then! I've really enjoyed being able to call myself a (part) cask owner these last 10 years and now very much looking forward to toasting 2018 in with a dram or two of the South of Scotland's finest! smile

Hope life is treating you well!
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#50482 - 27/11/17 11:39 PM Re: Other casks at Bladnoch... [Re: JohnM]
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Hi Andrea, I am about 25 to 30 minutes drive away from Martin. If I can help by picking up your share and keeping it here until you are in the area, I am happy to do so. You could pick it up fom me at home, or I could meet you in Newton Stewart.
Let me know if that is of any help to you, and we can make proper arrangements through Martin who has my address, telephone number and e-mail address.

Cheers, Rab.

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#50483 - 07/12/17 09:29 PM Re: Other casks at Bladnoch... [Re: Wee Rab]
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Originally Posted By Wee Rab
Hi Andrea, I am about 25 to 30 minutes drive away from Martin. If I can help by picking up your share and keeping it here until you are in the area, I am happy to do so. You could pick it up fom me at home, or I could meet you in Newton Stewart.
Let me know if that is of any help to you, and we can make proper arrangements through Martin who has my address, telephone number and e-mail address.

Cheers, Rab.


Rab sorry for the delay in getting back to you. If you'd be happy to pick up my share that'd be amazing. I'll be down in Wigtownshire on the 22nd (but of course Martin's closes at lunchtime on the 21st). I'll be phoning tomorrow to pay my dues so, if the offer is still open, I'll say that you might be picking them up on my behalf.

I'd be more than happy to call past yours to pick it up or meet in NS, whatever would work best for you.

Many thanks
Andrea

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#50484 - 08/12/17 12:10 AM Re: Other casks at Bladnoch... [Re: JohnM]
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No problem Andrea, I will go and get your boxes long before Martin closes. I was over getting more whisky on Wednesday and saw your whisky boxed up, and Jane said she would contact you. If she hasn't, please e-mail or 'phone her and she will give you all my details, and we can sort out a pick up.
That means you do not have to visit on a specific date, just tell me when you are on the mainland, and your whisky will be available.

Cheers, Rab.

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#50485 - 08/12/17 02:24 PM Re: Other casks at Bladnoch... [Re: Wee Rab]
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Originally Posted By Wee Rab
No problem Andrea, I will go and get your boxes long before Martin closes. I was over getting more whisky on Wednesday and saw your whisky boxed up, and Jane said she would contact you. If she hasn't, please e-mail or 'phone her and she will give you all my details, and we can sort out a pick up.
That means you do not have to visit on a specific date, just tell me when you are on the mainland, and your whisky will be available.

Cheers, Rab.


My timing is perfect as ever....missed Whisky Broker today but I'll call on Monday and get it sorted. Many thanks!

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#50486 - 08/12/17 11:39 PM Re: Other casks at Bladnoch... [Re: JohnM]
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Not a problem Andrea, I have arranged with Jane to pick up your stash, and I will get your e-mail address from her. Jane will also give you all my details and we can work out when to meet up.

Cheers 'n' beers, Rab.

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