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#48099 - 15/10/14 08:10 PM World War One
Steeler Offline
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Hi All,

Been a while since I last posted. I've, somewhat crazily, decided to expand my Wigtown War Memorial research to cover all those from the parish who served in WW1 (it seems a shame that those who fought and managed to come back are not recognised at all). That said, it's a daunting task.

Anyhow, while browsing through the Canadian WW1 records I came across a Corporal Thomas McClelland, son of Charles McClelland, Fordbank House, Wigtown. He enlisted with 59th Battery, Canadian Field Artillery, on 13 March 1916 at Winnipeg.

It looks like he survived the conflict ... but another link with Bladnoch!

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#48100 - 15/10/14 08:44 PM Re: World War One [Re: Steeler]
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Hi Mike, I wondered why you had been so quiet of late. I wonder how many owners Fordbank has had since Cpl McClelland's day?
In the nine years I have been down here I think it has changed hands four times.
Old Archie was talking about you last night, wondering how you were getting on with the War Graves searches.
Cheers for now, Rab.

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#48106 - 16/10/14 12:39 PM Re: World War One [Re: Wee Rab]
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Thanks Rab. Graves work continues - Minnigaff has been particularly challenging but I'm also planning a raid into Ayrshire! But this new project seems to be consuming me at the moment.

A bit more on the McClellands. The 1881 census shows Charles McClelland (37) born and living in Bladnoch. Occupation: Distiller of Whiskey [with an e] emplying 15 men. With him were wife Margaret (34), Maggie (9), Sarah Jane (8), Mary Helen (5), Elizabeth (3) and Thomas (1). Also Elizabeth Campbell (19) and Mary Broadfoot (18).

In 1891 they had moved to Poldbank (sic) House. Charles (47), Margaret (45), Margaret D (19), Mary H (15), Elizabeth A (13), Thomas (11), William D (7), Charlotte (5). Along with Margaret Coyle (26) and Martha Smith (25).

Finally there's a 1924 form reporteg the arrival of Thomas on the SS Doric in Canada. He had just returned from a holiday in Scotland. He was an unmarried clerk living at 135 Canora Street, Winnipeg (which looks very nice on Streetview!). He had originally arrived in Montreal in May 1910. Oh, and none of his family was "mentally defective"!

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#48107 - 16/10/14 04:54 PM Re: World War One [Re: Steeler]
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Hi Steeler, you're doing a good job, well done, although it doesn't require an Ulsterman to tell you that. I like the fact that the McLellands were working distillers who had good times and bad times financially. They never really appear to have made a fortune out of the whisky business although living in the Fordbank, a decent house, was certainly better than the cottage of the most recent owners. But in building the distillery they certainly put the name Bladnoch on the map.
It's interesting to read of Corporal McLelland having enlisted. Probably that could be said of a considerable number of men from the area. Certainly two sons of the Irish Dunville family whose Belfast company became the new owners of Bladnoch in 1911, were quick to enlist. I wonder were they fighting on the same front at the Somme?
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#48108 - 16/10/14 07:12 PM Re: World War One [Re: Raymondo]
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Thanks Raymond. At the moment I've found 175 men linked to Wigtown who fought in WW1 - and that's without looking very hard! I wonder if William D McClelland also signed up - another to look out for.

I've been inspired to do this by a lady in Gatehouse of Fleet who has produced an excellent book on the men (and women) from Gatehouse who stepped forward. She has found 300. What is interesting is the number of more senior ranks who feature in her survey. Here in Wigtown the highest rank (so far) is Captain. But that reflects the social mix - just think of the big country houses in the Gatehouse area.

Dauntingly she was working on the project for "a number of years". I think I'll need the occasional dram to sustain me!

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#48230 - 11/11/14 03:08 PM Re: World War One [Re: Steeler]
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Though today is called "Veterans' Day" in the US, it originally was passed as a holiday in 1926 and it is to honor all people who have served in the US Military. So to those who have served, "thank you"!

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#48262 - 19/11/14 09:12 PM Re: World War One [Re: autism]
Wee Rab Offline
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Been talking to Mike (Steeler) today, and he has located another grave in Whithorn for a local soldier who was buried with full military honours, but not yet recognised by the War Graves Commission.
He reckons it may take a year or more for that to be put right, but he is on the case.
Cheers, Rab.

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#48271 - 24/11/14 09:44 AM Re: World War One [Re: Wee Rab]
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Rab does Mike live in Whithorn?

On a different topic, Martin had a few things to get in Belfast so wee Harry (aged 2) and he came in the van which has only three seats and Jane and the baby came up to the ferry in the car which she left in the car park. I collected the children at the terminal in Belfast and they went shopping. On returning to Scotland, Martin decided that rather than have Jane carry the pram and childrens stuff off as a foot passenger that it would be easier and quicker for them all to go down to the car deck and leave the ferry in the van. He would then drive across to the car park about 150 metres away. This meant that when they got to the police chech out Jane was holding the baby which is an offense rather than having it strapped in on an approved baby seat. Martin's suggestions that an accident was unlikely during the short distance to the car park, particularly as there was a 10 mph speed restriction inside the harbour didn't go down well. So Jane had to get out of the van, put the baby in the pram and Harry in her arm and a police lady escorted her back to the terminal building from where she could proceed to her car. A bit embarrassing but I suppose he was lucky not to get a fine or points on his licence.

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#48273 - 24/11/14 12:32 PM Re: World War One [Re: Raymondo]
Wee Rab Offline
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Hi Raymond, Mike lives in Wigtown, on the hill leading down to the Martyr's Stake. His war graves research covers all of the old Parish including Whithorn.

Poor Martin, the shortcut proved to be the long way round.
He should stay home and get some bottling done, he has just four bottles left on sale, Arran, Deanston, Invergordon and Tobermory, and they are dwindling. :o))
Cheers, Rab.

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#48274 - 24/11/14 01:29 PM Re: World War One [Re: Wee Rab]
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Maybe Jane would be the one to remind him that Christmas is getting closer? I gave it a go at Facebook but saw no reaction \:\)

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